The topic of gay marriage is constantly in the news with laws, companies, and groups showing their support or opposition of gay marriage. What do you think of the issue? Please remain civil as always.
I personally am in favor of gay marriage being legal in the United States on the basis that you cannot discriminate or deny marriage to someone because of their sexual orientation. Personally, I do not condone gay marriage (nor would I take part in it), but I can respect others' desire to do so. I wouldn't want someone to tell me what I can't do, so I will not do the same. If they come for advice on the subject, then I will voice my personal opinion. It comes down to the fact that if you don't hurt anyone else, then it should be legal.
The principal conflicts about the gay marriage, is when they adopt a child: The child will a day know that 2 daddy can't have a child, and he'll understand he were adopted, and everyone face differently in a such case, and we can't know what happens in the mind of a child, so the real question is: In a gay marriage, wich include children, will children live like normal boys? That is the only thing I KNOW, but I'm not right with that, I think that everybody can marry with everybody (I'm not talking about to marry with a computer or something like that ^^), and if child bad react, then they didn't understand (yet?) that gay marriage is normal, and about adoption, that's something different that we can't understand as we weren't adopted, and everyone reacts differently with that. Seriously I see no real reason to block gay marriage (or even lesbian marriage, you should have said "homosexual marriage", it includes both lesbians and gays.)
I've met people in this situation and they have not been any different than another one of my friends. I've never met a person to where their disposition made me think that they were raised differently. The point was brought up on their own.
That's why I say that I'm not right with that, I just tried to explain why was there a debate about that when it looks like a natural and normal things for everyone
I love gay people more than fascist, self-absorbed, apathetic, greedy, impassive, inconsiderate, indoctrinated, racist, douche-bags and people wonder whats wrong with the world.
Wonderful echo chamber you have here. Impossible to debate in such conditions. http://critical-thinkers.com/wp-con...f-Yoursquore-Having-a-Rational-Discussion.jpg I wouldn't say anyone here meets the conditions. If, on the other hand, anyone in here is able to answer Yes to that first box, I would enjoy entertaining discussion. Cran, you are automatically disqualified, you definitely answer No to that first box. This is very obviously not a rational issue to you, it's an emotional issue. I will not discuss this particular subject with people so driven by emotion over reason.
A discussion about love being driven with emotions? I think this would be a good thing. Another point is that this is merely an exchange of opinions, since we don't have to come to a solution anyway because this is just the interwebs. Don't overrate yourself and this board, Kira.
"Don't overrate yourself and this board, Kira." This is the debate section, is it not? Is this just going to be a thread where everyone congratulates themselves on supporting gay marriage, or are we going to discuss the pros and cons of it? Or, like Cran so eloquently did, demonize anyone who would dare oppose? (I find it revealing that you +Like his post.) I've debated this topic any number of times over the years, in detail, with people who are valiantly in favor of it, and very intensely emotional about it. While I would enjoy a debate on the subject with rational people who can take a step back and be objective, and not merely thinking from the heart only, I want a guarantee before I dive in. It avoids the headache and the stress.
Then please present some pros and cons for deliberation. I'll start: Pros: Allowing people to exercise their right, preventing discrimination, not forcing one's beliefs on another, equal rights for all no matter race, gender, orientation, etc., people will stop whining about it Cons: People will whine about it, excessive celebration over "winning", crazy people may do crazy stunts in response, excessive politicizing by the media, etc. There are few cons because the act of marriage itself - whether homosexual or heterosexual - doesn't affect myself or any other human being besides those taking part in the act. Sure it may bother you, but at that point that is your issue that you need to get over through either avoiding contact or some other constructive and non-violent method.
The only ones that oppose gay marriage are the ones who do not think rationally and are driven by emotions and religions. Morality solves all problems. It is just the " fascist, greedy, inconsiderate, indoctrinated, racist, douche-bags" that are immoral. This is why we can't have nice things.
HERE IS MY SUGGESTION: Don't get married. Make up something new that does the same thing but has nothing to do with religion. All problems solved Edit; or just don't be a hater
In the netherlands, marriage usually consists out of 2 parts: marrriage by law and marrying "in front of the church" (this is an expression, not literary). Since the church still denies homosexuality, gay couples can only get married by law. So i would say, ban religion in all marriages! But than again, all the littles princesses who dream of walking down the isle would be disappointed But marriage by law is very useful because married people have both legal rights on their children and other instant benefits, which they wouldn't have if the couple wasn't married (it would take the a lot of money and paperwork to get the same as if they were married)
