Main Island Public farm/machine station

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  1. iamweirdie

    iamweirdie Active Member

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    if someone can start a public peat farm with a tree farm on top, both fully automatic, there would be

    1) enough power from peat to keep a public machine station (furnace, macerator, compressor, extractor) running.

    2)excess peat fuel for everyone

    3)excess wood for everyone

    4)possibly excess saplings?

    ideal location would be in the middle of the main island (the one with the houses) OR the empty island south of it.

    highest cost would be the tree farm, everything else is much easier to get.
    anybody willing?
     
  2. assasin172

    assasin172 Member

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    Its a good idea. Me and 0070071 just working on free machine station on main island and we are working on power suply what can be used for city.
    When i come from school we can go on mumble and talk about it.

    Peat farm is not hard to do it and also tree farm .. you need only material for make automatic farms from forestry.
     
  3. wolfenstein19

    wolfenstein19 Active Member

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    On a Sidenote, a TreeFarm and a PeatFarm run each other out simultaneously. Let me explain :

    Peat Farm uses Dirt,Water, Sand and Engine Power to Produce Peat and Dirt
    Tree Farm uses Fertilizer, Dirt , Saplings, and Engine Power to Produce Wood and Sand

    Taking the amounts into account and assuming your getting all necessary engine power from the Peat, you will get (after a start input) with no Input a constant supply of :

    -> Peat
    -> Saplings
    -> Apples
    -> Wood
    -> (very low cause its mostly used for humus) Ash


    Making this farm a very valueable choice.
    Greetings
    wolfenstein19
     
  4. iamweirdie

    iamweirdie Active Member

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    yea, i've done the cycling before. this is helpful.
    http://forestry.sengir.net/wiki/index.php?n=Main.Visualization

    since theres so much peat im probably gonna put the wheat farm next door to the tree farm, with the peat farm being under both. however, gknova is known to be an open thief to "enemies" which i srsly disapprove of >.>... furthermore, gknova has a large amount of resources but is currently hesitant to let other ppl build stuff for him. also, he claims that farming is op but stealing isnt, because "stealing is more fun"

    tldr, gk scares the sh*t outta me.

    i only have a chestful or 2 of stuff with me and my brother, gamerkhang- we usually keep our spending rate equal to our mining rate o.o
     
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  5. gknova61

    gknova61 Farbes Lover

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    I would like to build a public machine station for everyone with the machines having overclockers. Everyone may use it at a price of maybe like 1 IC credit per time you go in there.
     
  6. xXMadNessXx

    xXMadNessXx Beware of the MadNess

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    Would be hard to do:
    1. Someone will steal the overclocker
    2. Payment (how do you think this would work? Oo)
    3. ???
    4. If we have a public thingy, do you think there is need for your machine station?
    5. Number 3 again
     
  7. gknova61

    gknova61 Farbes Lover

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    No, no one will steal and i have an idea for the payment but don't wana give it out and what is a "public thingy"?
     
  8. gknova61

    gknova61 Farbes Lover

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    When did i say that stealing is more fun? Why would i let others build for me when i can easily build it myself and actually know whats going on? Also, i don't trust you very much anymore so why would i let you near a forestry machine? I do believe farming is a little op as you just plant and forget similar to ee collector flowers. Stealing from unlocked chests is legal btw but the player has the right to retaliate. Also, i only do it to people who have made enemies out of me. I try not to make enemies but
    I am starting to think that i just made a new one and please don't let that be true
     
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  9. xXMadNessXx

    xXMadNessXx Beware of the MadNess

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    The "public thingy" is the thing 007 and assasin are building. Therefore, why exactly should your idea be any good? If people decide free or spend money to do the same thing, they will choose free.
     
  10. gknova61

    gknova61 Farbes Lover

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    Wow, your mean :D. I will still make one anyways. I also want to make a public power station too but then there arises some complications.
     
  11. xXMadNessXx

    xXMadNessXx Beware of the MadNess

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    I'm not mean, i'm offensive. If i were mean, i would say that your idea is totally shit and you suck at life. What i neither think nor would say. Do what you want anyway, i just wanted to speak out my thoughts about your idea.
     
  12. iamweirdie

    iamweirdie Active Member

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    1) i recall the "stealing is more fun" thingy from mumble, but i apologize if u were being sarcastic at the time

    2) the amount of time spent mining [in your case] is much greater than your time spent building, so you have more resources than you can spend, therefore it helps to expend a bit to someone else to build

    3) forestry is slightly op but if distributed over the large group it won't matter, then nobody gets a disadvantage.

    4) i do admit i ask around a lot, but keep in mind i only ask for EXTRAS. in my case, i believe "retaliation" is sometimes unfair as i know you have a high amount of resources compared to others

    the problem with a pay-per-use machine is that the IC credits don't really go to anything visible to the consumer, it may seem like JUST a profit. furthermore, overclockers in machines are not easy to guard.

    therefore, if the consumer wants to reduce wait time [which is rly the only way to improve public machine station quality], they can either create and bring their own overclockers OR they can donate machines to the station. as for blackout prevention, just ask [DON'T demand] that ppl bring at least 1 peat or something equal each time they use a machine.
     
  13. gknova61

    gknova61 Farbes Lover

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    Our current status as far as resources go are not very far off of everyone else, surprisingly. Don't worry about overclockers, i will guard it, easily. And yeah I mostly am sarcastic in mumble and in chat. At times I am serious face but most, not. I do spend a long time mining thou usually at night. I mine in the daytime but when I do, it's for like 10-20min because when I usually mine in the daytime it usually means that I'm out of a not so hard to find material and desperately need a small bit
     
  14. Overloaderdave

    Overloaderdave the most n00bish person ever

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    well, IC2 power is infinite if you have a tree farm... wood->charcoal->more power->more charcoal and so it repeats. and then the extra saplings for biofuel-a bit more infinite energy production from that, so effectively tree farms are overpowered if you think of it that way.
     
  15. gknova61

    gknova61 Farbes Lover

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    Everything is overpowered if you think about it. :)
     
  16. bbqroast

    bbqroast New Member

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    Oh get over it!
    I like this idea a lot. Someone should set this up but charge for it (like GK suggested). Basically you have a chest and a button. You put say an iron bar in the chest and press the button. A RP2 machine pulls out the iron bar and allows power through a wire (at 512Eu/t) for a while charging a battery which is connected to the machines (so your paying for power to run the machines).
    You could also make biofuel, maybe a set up like the one above but powering a redstone engine that feeds biofuel from storage into a "pickup" tank where people can bucket it out as they please.
     
  17. thtredstonegui

    thtredstonegui Youtuber

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    Why not use some combination of RedPower2 and/or Buildcraft to hold an expensive item (possibly a diamond or some gold?) as collateral for dispensing Overclockers (i.e. put in a diamond to get your overclockers, then when you are done, put overlockers back, and it gives you diamond back)?
     
  18. alexanderpas

    alexanderpas I'll show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

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    I believe that's very easy to make with 2 trade-o-mat and a (personal) chest.
     
  19. gknova61

    gknova61 Farbes Lover

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    Not what i had in mind :p but good idea
     
  20. Overloaderdave

    Overloaderdave the most n00bish person ever

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    hmm... why don't we put sugar cane down, put a redstone torch on the block next to it and add a blo ck breaker at the same level to harvest sugar cane- instant auto sugar cane farming!