Alice[1.6] ReEnable the RTGs in IC?

Discussion in 'Alice (Minecraft)' started by pigsdropbacon, Jan 18, 2014.

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What is your opinion on this?

  1. I think the RTG should be enabled.

    60.0%
  2. I think the RTG should be enabled with a hard recipe.

    26.7%
  3. I do not think that the RTG be enabled.

    13.3%
  1. pigsdropbacon

    pigsdropbacon Member

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    What is the RTG?
    First of all I would like to briefly explain what the Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator (RTG) is.
    The RTG is a new block in IC as you might have guessed, that is another source of EU. While this generator allows for unlimited Eu, it comes in small amounts. If you are mid-tech in the game you can make a RTG fairly easy, but you need to be farther in to get the actual fuel for it. Each RTG pellet requires 6 dense iron plates and 3 plutonium, a very expensive recipe, and with 1 RTG pellet it creates 1 eu/t, 2 creates 2 eu/t, 3 creates 4 eu/t, and 5 creates a max of 16 eu/t.

    Why should it be enabled?
    In this section I will explain my thoughts and opinions(opinions not facts!!) about why I think that the RTG be enabled. Firstly as I explained in the previous section, the fuel cost alot of resources to craft, and filling an RTG with pellets would take more resources and time than it would to make and advanced or hybrid solar(which ever one can create 16 eu/t at day). The only advantage to having an RTG would be that you can have it anywhere you want, it does not have to sit under the sun. Another thing is that if a certain person or persons prefer not to have solars laying around they may want to use lava as a power source, and even though you cant pump lava from the nether directly you could have people going there and filling buckets/cells with lava, having RTGs available(in my opinion) would decrease the likelyhood of people doing this and destroying the beauty of the nether. To wrap up my point I would like to say that a few(not many but few) players on the server might have the highest tech generators in the game in a week or so, the RTG is merely an IC mid-tech level generator that is already expensive(maybe there could be a hard recipe implemented) and would be green for the nether by keeping away those lava suckers(you know who you are ;) )

    Please post your thoughts below and make sure to vote you opinion above, feedback appreciated!
     
  2. suchtie

    suchtie #LinuxMasterRace

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    Neither - the Advanced Solar Panel generates 8 EU/t and the Hybrid generates 64 EU/t.

    As far as I know, the RTG is not yet implemented in IC2. Either that or it is only in the mod's Experimental branch.

    Anyway, if it was implemented, I'd like to use it, but it should definitely have a hard recipe. Personally I'd make it about as expensive as a Hybrid solar - it may generate less energy but it has certain advantages. The Hybrid solar only generates 8 EU/t at night or during rain while the RTG constantly generates 16 EU/t. Also, it does not have any positioning requirements.
     
  3. Smudgerox

    Smudgerox Active Member

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    It wouldn't matter anyways- Reactors are disabled. They either don't work, or you can generate 55m eu/t and up with no explosion.
     
  4. pigsdropbacon

    pigsdropbacon Member

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    Flutter, are there any plans to fix the reactor?
     
  5. Neonbeta

    Neonbeta Person who did stuff and things

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    Why are you making it sound like it's the MPTs fault? it's an IC2 fault and it's the IC2 dev team that can fix it. Unless it has been fixed and we just need to update it :p
     
  6. Smudgerox

    Smudgerox Active Member

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    This. It has not been fixed (as of last night, haven't checked yet). I'm hoping Player and Thunderdark are still working on it
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  7. kylania

    kylania Active Member

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    RTGs are separate from Reactors. You don't need a reactor to use an RTG. Simply industrial grind Uranium and you end up with Tiny Piles of Plutonium. Combine and smelt them into ingots. Combine with 6 dense iron plates (324 Iron plates...) and you get the RTG pellet. 5 of those gets you 16EU/t. Plop that in your RTG and enjoy. It should be noted that you'll end up with a tremendous amount of radioactive nuclear fuel you'll need to somehow store and that can only be moved while in a hazmat suit.

    I fully believe that 1600 Iron plus the pain and suffering of getting to GregTech Industrial Grinder levels is worth the convenience of 16EU/t. If someone wants to spend 13,000 Iron so that they can run a single GregTech machine without worry, why not let them?

    The main use of RTG is as a solar replacement due to the new solar recipes. 1-3 RTGs will keep a modest AE system stable.

    As with everything on the server though it's "everything in moderation". You only NEED 3-5 of these things but some fool is gonna make 200 of them just because he can.

    Not including RTGs pretty much makes me not want to get involved in GregTech/IC2 at all. GregTech and early IC2 was simply not enjoyable until I was able to get a Reactor running. Before that I could only run 1 machine at a time and only for a very limited time. Power generation was just too much of a hassle. Now I understand we can't enable reactors before IC2 fixes them but RTGs are worth the effort to get to in my opinion.
     
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  8. Neonbeta

    Neonbeta Person who did stuff and things

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    You forgot the fact that you need to place DEPLETED nuclear reactor fuel, into the thermal centrifuge to get plutonium. WHICH IN FACT, you need a reactor to even make. I don't know where you got the info that you grind uranium to get plutonium in the first place(perhaps confused with the GT plutonium?); They may be separate from Reactors, but they are still required to get the ingredients to craft the RTGs.
     
  9. Talons1337

    Talons1337 I am a build team

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    Then use your brains and add a custom and balanced recipe for the fuel.
     
  10. ZoomerX

    ZoomerX Sent to exile for no reason

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    RTGs are currently disabled as a result of Nuclear Reactors being disabled due to a substantial bug. We will explore enabling RTGs once the Nuclear Reactor bug is resolved. Thank you for your understanding.
     
  11. pigsdropbacon

    pigsdropbacon Member

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    sorry im just getting back to you. but i didnt mean to make it sound like MPTs fualt, just meant is the ic team fixing it :p sorry again
     
  12. pigsdropbacon

    pigsdropbacon Member

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    thank you zoom for clearing that up(thats its disabled becuase reactors are disbaled), and its great to hear theres a chance that the rtg could be enabled :D P.S you're welcome for my understanding