I suggest you actually try and breed them before you go run your mouth off about something you have no experience in. Bees may be 'infinite' resources, but everything can be infinite, bees just let you do it without forcing you to do any exemplary work for what you do not want to accomplish. There has already been a lot of discussion about bees, and it has already been said that bees are under-powered at most. The only way you can get a good amount of resources from them is either making alvearies all made with frame housings and any of the vanilla tier of frame(bee frames that is. don't get them confused with rp2 frames), or to make a massive array of apiaries because the production rate is absolutely horrific, I mean seriously. For the diamond bees, you can get 1 comb every 2.5 HOURS and that 1 comb only produces 1 TINY pile of dust, not to mention the time it would take to genetically modify the bees if you wanted to change a specific trait about them. They are no where near the production rate of quitting mining just to have resources from bees supply you. I do agree that the thaumicbees 'bees' are a little bit OP but that is another story altogether. Bottom line: Make sure you have experience in something before you run your mouth of about how something is OP or you'll most likely be overturned >.> p.s. The bees that give EXP normally, are vanilla forestry. So if you want to remove them, please remove forestry as well.
I've been working with the Bees on single player, and to me its not easy. I'm not the best person for learning new stuff, but I find it quite difficult to understand how to breed and get the "correct" bee or whatever. I would have to say its not OP myself, however I don't see me using bee's often on SMP. I still say we get Elemental Creepers! I need more hugs, so at least the Cookie and Friendly Creepers would be awesome!
Jumping on the band wagon... Many of the Extra Bees branches were nerfed hard, and produce far less than they used to. For example, impregnable bees make titanium, but only one tiny pile of dust every 78 minutes. A queen could theoretically produce as much as one titanium dust every 5.2 hours. In reality it's slower. Queens die, and any progress towards a comb is reset when that happens. Needless to say there is no danger Extra Bees will crash the server economy.
We bred iron bees. We have hundreds of iron bees. It's just not worth it, brah, just not worth it. Bees sound good in theory, and then you get them and realize OH MY GOD THEY SUCK.
Definitely agree with the other people, bees are way hard to get up to those branches alone, hell most of the bees only have a less than 5% chance of obtaining those breeds. If you've worked your ass off to get them, you deserve them, and the only way to even make those bees worth the work is to invest into thaumic bees to earn a serum, which the machines require some hard to get materials on this server. DO ALL THE RESEARCH, about an issue, before you start saying something needs to go.
Not to mention hardly infinite. In order to make them produce at any appreciable rate you have to feed them frames at a very impressive rate. And infinite XP? there is an ender farm that you can get xp 10x faster than any bees can produce. Yes the titanium ones are a little OP, but the serums are very hard to get, I just got it by pure luck off the 1 drone I got. The ruby bees produce chrome 9x slower than the titanium bees, and the platinum bees at the fastest possible level will produce at most 15 iridium per real life day. The only bees that I have come across that are OP are the titanium bees, and I have only traded the serums to others who helped me get to them. I have advocated to others that get the serum on their own to not sell them as it will ruin the titanium market. And no, I do not produce titanium to sell at the bazaar or to other people, I had while I was waiting for my chrome to catch up for my fusion reactor, but now that I have the chrome and titanium that I need, I no longer produce or sell titanium because I know I could single handed ruin titanium's value on the server. Emeralds are not much of a concern now as most recipes have changed to use olivine as well as emeralds, and there is an easy an huge supply of that in the end.
Running quarries in forest biomes will produce a steady stream of titanium without the considerable bee breeding investment. Given that it's uses are so limited, it's value is bound to fall. I think the most valuable bees are from ThaumicBees. There are quite a number of materials, scares because of poor mob spawning, that ThaumicBees are helpful with.
Not only that, consider the fact to get the emeralds, you need to use 24 ITNT & 4 regular piles of emerald dust to make only 3 emeralds, I hardly think that is OP, in fact it is more Gregarious way than anything.
well that is the thing, most recipes now can use dust instead of solid emeralds as well, so the implosion compressor recipes are basically out of the question any way.
Tiny Piles of dust. So instead of getting one whole dust you get 2 tiny piles or maybe 1. Then you need to spend even more UUM per ruby or emerald. For rich folks it's easier to use UUM they have laying around than run a frame bore and lag the whole server.
You could nerf it down to 1 tiny tiny pile of dust where it takes 8 tiny tiny piles of dust to make 1 regular dust, and the worst that'll do is slow people down by a few seconds. Better to just keep it as it is. It's simpler and we all know how long it takes SK to do any change at all, why add to the pile?
You do know that they are good thing to do in the background and beeing 'slow' (using the term lightly) is part of the process...
