As of 2am eastern time on the 21st, the hub structure is completed, more or less. I put the nether portal and the glitch rift in, and the beacon is inside. Doorways that could lead to future bridgeways are easily accessible, and it's pretty good looking tbh. Aesthetics is in the eye of the beholder though. At this point, I'm holding off on final touches until any and all tech is installed into the structure. I'm thinking the structure should be augmented with displays of some sort, with messages and announcements. Subterranean levels should probably have the core of the public ME network, as well as probably the power generation, with satellite sites being powered by local sources and augmented by central power. If anyone else has ideas for what else could be added to the hub, or any satellite sites they'd like to establish, let me or kurisu know either here or in chat. I'll try to keep the messages shorter now, because it seems overtaxing for anyone to read for more than 10 seconds at a stretch, apparently.
Lab, can you explain what's up with the hub for me? Is ob going to be split into regions to prvent lagg, or shoved all into one place?
Fine to make a team. Please sets up goal now "what/where/who". As far as i heard, this is planned the wrong way. will OB have ore process ? where to put all the gear ? who will make it ? will OB have an automated food production ? where to put all the harvest ? who will make it ? will OB have all-wood bazaar for builders ? where to put the plants ? who will make it ? will OB .... ? where to put ... ? who will make it ? Then the requirement will pops itself (like basement, ME network, overall size...) And please to NOT flood the ingame chat with your OB management.
Ok, because apparently I've got to say it for like the Nth time now: 1 - OB's structure consists of a hub, that hub leads to various satellite sites connected to the hub by bridgeways, this is so that everything IS NOT in one place, leading to a reduction in overall lag. The hub currently has portals to the Nether and the Corrupted Sector. A portal directly from Spawn may come later. 2 - The hub will probably have announcement displays, the core of the ME network, and maybe the public reactor, depending on energy needs or the lulz of whoever wants to build it. 3 - Site locations should attempt to focus on a single concept or product (ore processing/food/thaumcraft/etc.) where precisely those are put and what they can do and who they can be done can be ironed out based on who'd like to volunteer or donate, the best way to do it is for it to arise organically out of altruism, not be imposed from up on high. 4 - If you feel something isn't being done, or not being done right, we have this wonderful concept called democracy, within which you can talk to people, reach consensus and solve problems. 5 - People who complain, but do nothing to resolve the issue, guess what? You're part of the problem and not the solution. Working on this project so far I can see that there are good people who do and will help out, and then there's the minority who will just ***** and moan, move a block, then say they're part of the team. For those people, I'd like to direct them to my fucks farm, and notice that it's fallow and empty, with nary a **** to be found because the power line to the fertilizer hasn't been built yet, but it's in the works. Starting to get annoyed that I'm at the OB site, building stuff with 3 hands, while people who haven't done jack are nagging from the sidelines. Just saying, and directed at nobody in particular. 6 - how do you fix problems and help? I'm glad you asked. You come see me at OB, you find me in chat, or you post here what you'd like to do. 7 - Want to donate? Want to build a site, or help with one? Have suggestions? See part 6.
I haven't the necessary privileges to access OB at the moment. 1: I don't have the coords 2: I don't have access to my PC 3: Too many assignments When each of those are resolved, I will be more than happy to arrive and assist.
OB is located due south of Spawn. If you go into the rail station, you'll see that it's been modified with a speedway leading directly to OB.
"if, if and if" That's what ppl say, but doing it is something else Anyways. I hope OB won't lagg this time
labtech you argue and continue doing it the wrong way. This is why nothing happens. If you can't understand the mechanic of failure, here is a hint "hello i wanna send a rocket to the moon. the launch bay will be here. please now suggest how to make the rocket. what ? who build the left tank here ? stop crying !" normal project are "hello i wanna send a rocket to the moon. what are the requirement ? brainstorm ! <list> ok team now let's split work (with name. someone means no one)." then "Oh, got trouble or new idea ? if critical, get everyone to discuss, if not critical, just solve with the few involved" in the mean time, others tasks are done. Yes you provided a guideline about the rocket. Next step require team management. It is about giving people task and responsibilities. List tasks, list people available, match them, publish the result. Your leadership is a democratic chorus ? then brainstorm it and vote. You even can create a task to find tasks and commit one guy to do it !
I love how the hecklers from the gallery talk and they talk, but I don't see them down at ob offering help or doing much of anything, except more talk, meanwhile things are still getting done. I initially DID want to act as leader, then Kurisu did his straw poll and guess what? NOBODY wanted a head orchestrator, they wanted a council arrangement, which I was fine with. But when very few if any of this supposed council are present or chip in anything, or show any interest to my knowledge, I'm out here doing things myself. Then you have the drama people have created, which is counterproductive, which causes people to leave the council arrangement. End result? I've been out here building up ob nearly single handedly while nobody helps, and everyone complains. It's not from lack of advertising the points, any one of which could be resolved if ANYONE seemed to give a damn. But god forbid I explain the obvious, because that somehow makes it my fault. That having been said, progress is continuing. Hub's built for the most part, but if anyone thinks they can make a better structure that NOBODY thinks is ugly, come on down and break a sweat, it's not like I haven't put out feelers. I made the hub, and although I didn't pick the color scheme (Siioh and Crienorec did), I think it looks ok, although I guess magenta and pink not being 'manly' colors maybe makes some people uncomfortable. Hub now has an me network, mostly under the hub, but there's a terminal for access near the beacon. Right now anyone can donate/withdraw, but me, LordRedstone, Kurisu, and Enderpenguin have sole rights to modify the network itself for the time being. I'd like to single out contributors so far that have helped me along: Siioh and Crienorec for materials and ideas, enderpenguin for the food satellite site and various other help, and Kurisu for the initial ob establishment and leveling (as well as a fair bit in object lessons in patience). As for upcoming matters: LordRedstone has said that he plans on upgrading the current me network when he gets a chance, and he's put his full support behind current efforts. Focus now shifts to the satellite sites for various functions. The current functionalities that strike me at the moment are as follows: Ore/general processing (I might end up taking this one with help from others) Thaumcraft (Kurisu has shown interest in taking this up) Food (currently being worked on by enderpenguin) Wood/tree farm (types to be determined later) Various energy sources for transfer Villagers Tinker's Construct Big Reactor? ME network extension (terminals, autocrafting, etc), bear in mind you'll need to ask to have a biometric card inputted into the security terminal. As you can see, works available if anyone feels like dropping by, but people have to want to do things for things to happen, it's not like I can compel people to do something they don't want to, as it kinda defeats the purpose. Sorry if I neglected to mention anyone who helped, just know the effort was appreciated. IF YOU WANT TO HELP, HERE'S HOW: reply below with whatever site duties you feel you might want to contribute to. If I don't get any replies, I might end up having to go down the list of people on the OB team, and then the chief donator list below asking for help, but I'm hoping a spirit of altruism doesn't force me to do so. You can also talk to me in chat, or just drop by ob and see what needs doing. Keep in mind satellite sites need to be at least a couple chunks away from each other so as to spread out lag, and Enderpenguin worked out a pretty effective bridgeway using road blocks and water, as it makes you move VERY fast, like sometimes chunks don't have time to load fast. Also, if fellow ob team members (and you should know who you are) should maybe come see me, and I don't know, collaborate. I mean, you'd think with a council arrangement I shouldn't have to micromanage everyone. But I mean, these are just suggestions, by all means continue to naysay and complain, because that's done wonders so far.
I agree with you labtech, you shouldnt repeat yourself so much. It immediatly means there is a communication problem. Trimming all the talk, here is the valuable info - OB will be built as a hub + satellites to be fps/lag friendly. Each satellite are roughly for each mod. - Road between satellites and hub will be built following Enderpenguin guidelines. - All of the following must be at least 7 chunks away to avoid crossload/lag. OB TASKS Hub : mostly done, lordredstone/labtech in charge Ore/general processing : labtech might end up taking this one with help from others / who ? Thaumcraft : Kurisu Food : Enderpenguin Wood/tree farm (types to be determined later) : who ? Various energy sources for transfer Villagers : who ? Tinker's Construct : who ? Big Reactor : who ? ME network extension (terminals, autocrafting, etc), bear in mind you'll need to ask to have a biometric card inputted into the security terminal. suggested : Bloodmagic DONATOR/SIDE HELP Add your name below. you agree to be asked by satellite builder for material. dhd_zeke_ theangrytomato Siioh BlueJosh27 Pathaleon LordXyroz Ninja_Cum CREDITS seriously, do no makes credits while a project/task isnt finished, else the "granted" ones will feel like they are done. TO DISCUSS - Need a precise satellite arrangement around hub; i.e explicit coordinates available for the satellite. - Designate one OB member to readup forum and update main post (or a google doc) with task in progress/who in charge list. seems it's Kurisu job. is he okay ?
You didn't await for prior approval from the council lab, you just went and did. Currently OB is at an incredibly difficult state to repair, and from what I have heard, you are refusing to actually allow anybody to change your hub building, which is frankly atrocious. If you would like a proper explanation as to why it is ugly, let me know and I'll get back to you.
To be honest, yes the hub building is ugly, but that can be fixed quite easily. I'm no good builder by any means and I live in the UK, but I'll discuss this with lab over IRC or similar and I'm sure we can reach a compromise. As for stuff that needs to be done, I'm planning to work on the AE and also manage a Botania area. I can do almost any other mod though.
