We want auto-Mining Back!

Discussion in 'Alice (Minecraft)' started by deadman430, 12 March 2014.

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Auto-MIning Should Be Brought Back Right?

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  2. No

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  3. Expensive to make

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  1. punk_and_goth

    punk_and_goth AFK a minimum of 23 hours, 59 minutes per day.

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    orrrr lava for non power stuff >.>

    jeez who said anything about power this is not 1.4
     
  2. xCromyx

    xCromyx Gamer With an Eye-patch

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    I should put a wind turbine in this thread.

    You want automining because you don't enjoy mining? 5 min of mining yields 10-24+ copper diamonds might take a bit more time but that's diamond. If you don't enjoy mining that much try to get someone who does to live with you. Or simply work with you to share a few machines.


    EDIT: This is why things get disabled.


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  3. Thenrin

    Thenrin Gamer Geezer

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    So limit items, instead of removing them entirely.
     
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  4. Tonius

    Tonius 555 Eternal Server Error

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    Limiting items should be done carefully though. Doing it wrong will just cause people to make setups like this even bigger.
     
  5. MichelleSophia

    MichelleSophia Moderator

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    That's ltu and slayerduck's base.
     
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  6. MrSedgewick

    MrSedgewick Curator of Useless Things

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    Doesn't this violate the "don't build ugly stuff out in the open" guideline?
     
  7. Tonius

    Tonius 555 Eternal Server Error

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    It would still be used for enormous lava power plants, whether you do it or not.
     
  8. Talons1337

    Talons1337 I am a build team

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    Tiny as in single column at a time with crazy high electricity costs and machine costs, and no recovery. It would be pretty much useless. The trick is finding the balance where it's still useful, but not something that you would outright go for - you'd have to consider if it was worth it - even if you're a high level player.
     
  9. MrSedgewick

    MrSedgewick Curator of Useless Things

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    You just described the IC2 Miner at minimum functionality. Drills down, collects ores as the drill bit descends, captures lava and water in cells, and it even fills in the borehole if you put dirt or cobble in it when it's done. You can modify it a bit to collect ores in a (small) radius around the drill bit too. Requires manual intervention, power supply, a loaded chunk, an IC2 pump, cells, and the patience to sit there watching it work. And a great deal of iron (seriously, a lot).

    Obviously people would simply abuse it by mass producing these things and creating massive fields of them.

    You see the problem.
     
  10. Penagwin

    Penagwin Linux Servers are better then windows!

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    How about this. I make my mod have a mining machine that voids all stone, dirt, gravel, etc, and doesn't touch anything else(mining world only of course). Then it could make mining faster without people becoming rich overnight.

    Recap: Voids everything like stone but doesn't touch ores.
     
  11. deadman430

    deadman430 Member

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    Hmm.. Could work but could also cause problems.
     
  12. Penagwin

    Penagwin Linux Servers are better then windows!

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    Referring to my post?

    If so just image a BC quarry that doesn't spit any items out and leaves behind ores.
     
  13. Tonius

    Tonius 555 Eternal Server Error

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    So, basically an inverted Digital Miner from Mekanism, where you can just instamine all the ore with a Molecular Disassembler within 5 minutes, while also bringing back the infamous quarry pits?
     
  14. Penagwin

    Penagwin Linux Servers are better then windows!

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    No, more like a BC quarry that doesn't mine ores.(It would give you no resources, just expose them)

    What is the issue with pits in a world made and reset for mining?
     
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  15. LeiserGeist

    LeiserGeist Gamer, Software Developer

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    Your post is incredibly narrow minded.
    First, There's a small amount of people in this rather large community who have the mindset of grinding through ten fusions on the first day of server up-time.

    Second, we've had a mining world (and quarries disabled in the overworld) in Alice for as long as I can remember - mainly for the point of NOT having massive holes in the overworld's terrain, so don't go saying that's an issue.

    As far as I know, the only inconvenience that quarries provide for other people is the lag.
    Guess what, the mod that added enderthermic pumps to the point of reducing lag has recently added QUARRIES that use the same "less laggy" (according to the developer) ways.

    Hell, I haven't used more than one max-size quarry at once and I still managed to get an advanced base in the past versions.

    What the hell is that brown box in the back... This screenshot reminds me of one shared a while back that showed someone's base with ~1024 Advanced Solar Panels in a massive square. Purely ridiculous. This is the reason we should have more of a private community.
    Anyways, I completely see your point about needing to mine less without needing a stack of diamonds for a Gregtech furnace, but it's still an incredibly mundane and repetitive task that neither I nor anyone I game with enjoys.

    Also, I suck at it. After joining the server this time around and finding a spot to call home, I went into the ground and mined for about two hours to get a mediocre amount of materials that wouldn't be enough for some basic automation.
    Sure, I could hire some random to mine for me - bad experiences...
    Sure, I could invite some random to live with me - even worse experiences.
     
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  16. MrSedgewick

    MrSedgewick Curator of Useless Things

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    Quarries were not the point of that paragraph. The point of that paragraph was that some people who want to win at tech progression (which you point out rightly is a very tiny percentage of people) will make incredibly large, ugly arrays of machines without a thought for other people or aesthetics. I threw out quarry pits as an example of large, ugly byproducts of winning at tech progression, nothing more. The last server community I was in didn't have a mining world for a while, and there were a lot of ugly ugly quarry pits. Which is why they sprung to mind as an example.

    Your points about quarries in the mining world are well made. I have nothing to add on that front.
    The brown box is obviously a tower of some kind. Yes it needs some more aesthetic touches but I don't see it as the problem in the screenshot. The problem I see is the giant ugly stack of machines sitting out there in the open.
    The problem I was driving at earlier.

    I suck at mining too. Really. I hate it hate it hate it. I don't know what your standard of basic automation is, so I can't speak to how much mining that would take, but... Well, I know the feeling.
     
  17. slayerduck

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    We rebuild our cobble factory into a single chuck cuz cables kept breaking, problem?

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  18. wolfenstein19

    wolfenstein19 Active Member

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    Why do you use all these pipes? You can attach an ender chest to every array and make it more reliable that way.
     
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  19. LeiserGeist

    LeiserGeist Gamer, Software Developer

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    I think you need more cobblestone generators!
    You couldn't possibly have enough cobble from THAT, what do you have? A measly 2 billion cobble? Psh.

    /s
     
  20. xCromyx

    xCromyx Gamer With an Eye-patch

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    What wolf said you shouldn't need pipes at all either 1 enderchest per pylon or one import bus. Furthermore on 1.5 someone with these could kill tps, seems to not be as bad now. The amount of chunks is not an issue so much as the amount of machines and how well or poorly they are coded. For example prior to the reset glitch and wolf killed the server after having setup their first fusion that's roughly 120 or so machines in total. If a mod maker intends for it to be a single player mod and assumes that then it should be listed in the dicruitpon, but that is my opinion on the issue.
     
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