Large Build The Black Market

Discussion in 'Projects' started by fxstriker, 2 May 2013.

  1. fxstriker

    fxstriker Good Bye skcraft.

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    The bazaar has been getting very popular as of late so we are going to shake things up a bit with the addition of The Black market

    Update:
    we have set up a fairly large amount of things and are now open where starting with 6 stores as a test run, they are quite large and have Mv eu supply for things like an ae system no complicated machinery; (we wont a lag free Black Market) we are expanding still.

    shops will cost a fee of 30 uum to buy and possibly in the future a small upkeep players will be required to prove there worth (screenshot or let myself or archer visit your base) where very exclusive. =p

    anyone will be able to buy/trade and there is no limit on who may visit we can however ban
    a player from entering if your disruptive.
    Note : after taking the portal at spawn take the stairs up and follow the path there is a sign
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    players may sell what ever they like from special cross bread saplings or bees to uum etc etc

    reply to thread if you want to buy a shop!
     
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  2. gknova61

    gknova61 Farbes Lover

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    I thought this was a joke on the server because you can't sell UU and the like at the Bazaar, lol
     
  3. RavensRed

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    lol a black market for uu trades
    sounds good to me!
     
  4. fxstriker

    fxstriker Good Bye skcraft.

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    There is no reason why we can't allow people to sell uum in our market,
    as it is players are free to do them but it can be difficult to organize and that wont be the defining key point of the market ether there is other things in the works as well ;)
     
  5. Neonbeta

    Neonbeta Person who did stuff and things

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    Is this going to be a completely separate market to the bazaar?. Or will it be an addon?
     
  6. Demenzia

    Demenzia *boop*

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    We didn't allow to sell UU at the bazaar, since it mixes the economy even more than it already is. I'd even rather see not to sell End game items at all. But yes, that'd be overkill.
    Newer players don't need to work that much for their advantages anymore. Besides the good and already rich players only get richer. I think it disbalances the game and poeple might get bored from it earlier than usual, since it's quite easy to get some items. I had the feeling it's necessary to mention the reasons before I go for the actual comment.

    According to the reasons, a separate market would work.
    East of the spawn someonespecial/suchoguy started this project. It's a square from wooden planks. Wouldn't it be great if this place became nicer to the eye?
     
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  7. buttonsinpjs

    buttonsinpjs Active Member

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    I told myself I would not get involved but I have an idea and I want to throw it out there.

    Think of the Bazaar as a regulated market run by people that are trying to make it a fair place for everyone. Certain items are considered contraband. UUM is outright banned and bee serums are frowned upon by some. This is not a discussion about the Bazaar I just want to point out that there is demand for these items and a separate market could meet those demands.

    So, here's my idea for the Black Market. Unlike the Bazaar which is free and open for everyone, the BM can be almost like a private club where you have to pay to get in. Whoever is running the BM could charge an entry fee, or shop rental fee, but at the same time you have to make it lucrative for people that want to buy sell stuff. This is the part that sounded cool in my head, but I'm not sure how it could be pulled off. The only big draw I can think of is the freedom of the BM to buy and sell UUM or serums without repercussions.

    I will leave you with a couple questions:
    Are there other items that are not generally sold at the Bazaar?
    Do you have any other ideas for drawing people to do business at the BM?

    I feel really conflicted making this post. Because I am part of the Bazaar management team and a server moderator, I feel like there is a huge conflict of interest by helping a competitor. It think the Black Market is a really cool idea, but by posting suggestions intended to benefit the competition it seems like I'm betraying my loyalties. I wish you guys the best of luck and I hope any future rivalry doesn't turn into some kind of ugly drama. Also, don't take it personally when I try to poke holes in your plans ;)
     
  8. Demenzia

    Demenzia *boop*

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    A mafia version of c9... (still pvp forbidden..<.<.)
     
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  9. fxstriker

    fxstriker Good Bye skcraft.

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    Just to clear things up this is separate from the bazar
    things are still in planing stage as of now
     
  10. hussain

    hussain technichussain

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    we need the black market because things got harder like u need uum for adv.solar panels
     
  11. ewized

    ewized TimeLord

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    Or you must get the other player to aggre to let you kill them or then they die. The perfect mafia style that would techinicaly be allowed by the rules :p
     
  12. fxstriker

    fxstriker Good Bye skcraft.

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    Insert leaked pictures of construction :
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    And:
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  13. ArcherRanger

    ArcherRanger the Scout

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    Definitely can't wait to open this up to you guys! Fxstriker and I are quickly and thoroughly completing this project one step at a time. We hope to open it very soon!
     
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  14. gknova61

    gknova61 Farbes Lover

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    Looks pretty.
     
  15. Demenzia

    Demenzia *boop*

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    A black market with rules... qute
     
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  16. fxstriker

    fxstriker Good Bye skcraft.

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    Yeah i saw the irony but everything has rules this just has less =p
     
  17. DSoS

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    In the screenshot above, the screen:
    4. one plot per player
    Note:
    ...players may have there ...

    "there" should be "their"

    :p Just saying, doesn't bother me as much as it may others.


    Sounds like an interesting idea though!
     
  18. fxstriker

    fxstriker Good Bye skcraft.

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    i was tired when i wrote that ill fix it ;)
     
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  19. RavensRed

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    I like the look of this, if you have any need of supply's let me know I would be happy to help no matter what they may be.
     
  20. Phantasmagoria

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    Um.
    I'd just like to say that people should be able to get their own materials. I mean- if advanced solars are harder to get now, get something else! There's tons of early-midgame options and even more with BC integration and Gregtech.

    I don't want to see this server become a "consumerist" kind of place, people should be able to get what they need on their own. That said, if people want to buy things, they should be able to buy things. Having this sort of market would kind of decimate the purpose of the bazaar. You are trying to create a place where everything and anything can be sold? These restrictions were put into place to save the "economy." Now think. This black market idea seems to be more omnipotent than the bazaar. People would eventually begin to make all their shops here instead, no? However, this is just speculation.

    Now. Back to why I'm against selling some items publicly. Let's start with bees.

    Bees
    -Bad practice in general, imo
    -Eliminates the need for breeding, a time consuming and somewhat tedious, but required job
    -Essentially selling a factory
    --> Example: You're on your way to Walmart, to buy... Say, a box of napkins. Normally, you go and buy the box, yes? Not fly over to china, and buy the factory, for a few more dollars.

    Now, let's change the words a bit. You're on your way to the black market, to buy some titanium. Normally, you'd just buy the titanium, and not the bees, which would produce it almost infinitely, for a few more rubies. Boom goes the value of titanium, and some of the need to get resilient bees.

    So, I just realized that the only thing I'm really against selling is bees. And UUM. But that's mostly because selling UUM is like selling time, ahaha. So boom goes my reasoning.

    HOWEVER

    I like how it's turning out so far. The skeletons look cute, though I feel the marble should be changed to something more white, and less grainy and grey, like wool, or off white lamps. I also feel that the roof should have some sort of lighter (white) coloured patterning, as I find just flat stone quite bland.

    There's a few problems in your grammar.
    (On rule 2) "don't" should have a capital "d." "peoples" should be spelled as "people's"
    (On rule 3) The correct word is "machinery."
    (On rule 4) "one" should be capitalized.

    Also. They all should have a period at the end of them, or you should just remove the period from rule 1.

    So, in closing statements, I'm quite excited/against at the same time for this to be finished. Best of luck to you, and I hope you have a great time building this, ahaha. ;)
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