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Donator Perks - Way to better hardware?

Discussion in 'Suggest + Report Bugs + Get Help' started by wolfenstein19, 4 April 2012.

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Should this server allow people to donate for perks?

  1. Yes!

    33,3%
  2. No, go away!

    46,7%
  3. Mixed (will explain in a response)

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  1. wolfenstein19

    wolfenstein19 Active Member

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    Hey Guys,
    I was wondering about some thing in this server. I understand that you probably get a very low number of donations, mainly cause you don't offer anything for donators.

    So, wait you dont understand the meaning of donation???
    Yes, yes I do understand it. The problem is the world, and especially the internet dont work that way.
    In real life, people donate to pay lower taxes. In the internet they buy preference and perks. Only a very tiny part of the community is willing to give money without getting something.

    I would like it better if there would be enough to have a lagfree server without donator perks, but off my own very painful experience (Having been admin and developer on Metin2, World of Warcraft and Minecraft Private Servers) its not working that way. Reality often differs from fancy words and definitions.

    My Suggestion would be :


    A paid 10$ (or more, thats upon the admins to decide) VIP rank with some perks like :

    - Free /home
    - Request teleport to another player
    - (Virtual Chest)
    - A Special Tag ingame
    - free area protection
    - access to a chest lock system without signs
    - (mining spawners)

    while this is a list of things that I would find possible, I would not ever suggest VIPs to have all these if this is considered. Only 2-3 things maybe.
     
  2. Cranimesao

    Cranimesao Administrator
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    I give money to help people in need or to further a cause. Shame people do not share these views. I think that if people feel they HAVE to have something in return to justify supporting something they enjoy and support a hardworking guy (sk89q) that breaks his back to provide an awesome server with customs mods to play on; then they should jump off of a mountain. I consider these type of people in my life to be self-righteous and greedy.Donating is an option. However don't complain about the lag and server crashes and think that you deserve to be playing on the fastest possible server without helping to make it be that way.

    Paying for a perk gives you advantages over other players. That sort of fits the Free 2 Play, Pay 2 Win type of games that have destroyed gaming and a once important genre to me. I hate it.

    So, if you donated. Thanks! I am sure it will go towards a good cause for hardware, hosts, etc.
    If not. Stop complaining.
     
  3. wolfenstein19

    wolfenstein19 Active Member

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    I can see your point on there and how much I want to slap these people with a steak too, if you want an lagfree server this is the only way asides from Making it a Pay2Play server sadly.

    I like your argumentation though
    Sincerly,
    wolfenstein19

    PS : Im gonna donate 15$ tomorrow, just for the lulz
     
  4. xXMadNessXx

    xXMadNessXx Beware of the MadNess

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    As soon as SK would give perks to donators i would look for another server.
    This can't be balanced and a community who is split in 2 kind of players sucks.
     
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  5. Joe12o

    Joe12o Moderator

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    This would improve the number of donators on the server, but the concept of it just doesn't fit with how this server is. I might as well explain why(These are my opinions by the way):

    I don't quite know what you mean by this, but if they are anything like Alchemy Bags from Equivalent Exchange it probably won't happen. When Sk first told us that Equivalent Exchange wasn't going to be included in Alice anymore famerdave and I offered to take the idea from Equivalent Exchange and make a separate mod with them, but he did not want them even when we offered to make them more expensive and lower the amount of bags you can get.

    I strongly disagree with this suggestion because it would completely destroy the feel of the server for me. When I first joined this server I was greeted by a few of the moderators and I was puzzled by the fact that they did not have any special color or tag to indicate their ranking on the server because I had been on so many other servers where the players were split solely based upon their ranking; it was a pleasant surprise. Once people gain a title they begin to develop this false sense of power over the other players on the server and this creates a split in the community. Moderators, even, are not very different from the normal player currently and I enjoy that. If this was to be changed it would ruin the feel of skcraft for me.

    This would be very overpowered...

    Use an enderpearl or walk, get over it.

    I believe all players will be getting this soon if I'm not mistaken.

    It costs a few pieces of wood and some sticks, again, get over it.

    As Cran said, don't think that you deserve to be playing on the fastest possible server without helping to make it be that way. Sk pays for this server himself and he doesn't expect anything in return, why should you?

    I may have over-thought this completely, but I just wanted to get my opinion out there.
     
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  6. TexasGamer

    TexasGamer Well-Known Member

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    Ideas for donator benefits have been thrown around, but the general consensus is that nothing will be introduced that will change the style or flow of gameplay or the server itself (see teleports, tags, etc.). It would be nice to see more donations so we could look into more or better servers, but we shouldn't need to sacrifice the feel of the server for that.
     
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  7. TopHatMan

    TopHatMan Doobie Doo

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    I would donate for hats.
     
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  8. xXMadNessXx

    xXMadNessXx Beware of the MadNess

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    Yesterday, as we were talking about it on the server, people seemed to like my idea of Statues for every donator. If you want, you could assing more/bigger statues for higher donations.
     
  9. TexasGamer

    TexasGamer Well-Known Member

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    That's an interesting idea... I also like the idea of early access to "beta servers" (new games, etc.) or something...
     
  10. glitch80

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    My 2 cents:

    Small perks to encourage donation would be OK, but anything that impacts one player's ability to gather resources over others is a bad idea. Particularly on Vincent, I would find something like free teleports problematic. Donation rewards tend to devalue items, or in the case of something like place-able spawners, large groups of items.

    I would suggest vanity items for donators. Things like hats, capes. Something like a donator's lounge or statues would be great too.
     
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  11. xXMadNessXx

    xXMadNessXx Beware of the MadNess

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    /thread

    EDIT: Where is the donation button again? :p
     
  12. thtredstonegui

    thtredstonegui Youtuber

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    What about the ability to put a piece of glass on your head for a helmet? I remember doing that back in the days of hMod!
     
  13. SKULLHEADHJ

    SKULLHEADHJ IMGAY

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    Dude NO.This is one of the ideas of the server,to have fun.Not split the community in two.If Sk adds donations MANY people will leave.
     
  14. Neonbeta

    Neonbeta Person who did stuff and things

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    You do realize that the last post was from April?

    Can we get this thread locked or something?
     
  15. Chaeris

    Chaeris Active Member

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    Shadow hates dead forums...
    I know it really well, unfortunately!
     
  16. SKULLHEADHJ

    SKULLHEADHJ IMGAY

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    i see
     
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