2nd Amendment: The right to bear arms.

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  1. xXMadNessXx

    xXMadNessXx Beware of the MadNess

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    Hunting rifles aren't in question, aren't they?
    Self defense? well, big ol' government won't take away your handguns, so yea, there you go defending yourself, please shoot yourself.
    Resisting tyrannical government? Good luck with an AK shooting at tanks bro.
     
  2. xXMadNessXx

    xXMadNessXx Beware of the MadNess

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    This is bullshit i would punch you in the face for.
     
  3. Chaeris

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    About me, I was saying:

    Keep the 2nd amendement, as long as it doesn't make more crimes than in other countries!

    If it doesn't disturb anyone, then don't remove it.
    If it begins to become a problem, then instantly remove it.

    As far as I know, there aren't more crimes, so keep it!
     
  4. Kirazy

    Kirazy An idle texturer

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    Because reality does not function like your idealized utopia. You take the guns away from those who follow the law, and the only people who will have guns will be those who don't give a shit about the law. This is how it ACTUALLY HAPPENS, in places like Chicago and DC, both places with hugely restrictive gun laws, incredible amounts of gun control, and yet have huge numbers of homicides committed with a firearm.
     
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    Kirazy An idle texturer

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    It is not bullshit. Just because some criminal breaks the law and kills someone doesn't mean you should therefore be allowed to disarm the 200m+ Americans who own a gun just to keep them "from killing someone".

    Those who want to cause harm, will find a way to cause harm. The Sandy Hook event took place the same week as an event in China, where a man with a knife killed 22 people. With a knife.

    Are you going to take the knives away?

    Cars cause vastly more harm than guns do, to far, far more people. Are you going to take the cars away?

    Why is it that you want to take guns away, which by and large don't actually result in all that much death when compared to everything in the United States that kills people?

    P.S. Punch him in the face? Where are your arguments, where are your objective, reality-based suggestions and analysis? You can't handle him, so you threaten him with physical violence?

    Should we lock you away in a cell for the rest of your life so that you can't cause anyone any harm? Like the guns you so despise?
     
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    Kirazy An idle texturer

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    Good sir, unlike what Piers Morgan believes, the 2nd Amendment does not include the word "musket".
     
  7. xXMadNessXx

    xXMadNessXx Beware of the MadNess

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    You're just repeating the bullshit the NRA says, including your republican priests and fascist media. You need to look outside of your bullshit country which does everything wrong in the worst fucking way possible.
     
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    xXMadNessXx Beware of the MadNess

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    I'd punch him in the fucking face because that's what a fucking psycho would say.
     
  9. Rabbidfan236

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    And these people think making guns illegal will stop gun violence.

    How the hell is making something illegal going to stop a criminal from doing it?
     
  10. DeeeezNutz

    DeeeezNutz Server's Un-Official Noob

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    1) Do NOT insult other players and/or their beliefs.
     
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    Kirazy An idle texturer

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    And you're just regurgitating hate and rage. Take a step back, Madness, and examine your own beliefs.
     
  12. xXMadNessXx

    xXMadNessXx Beware of the MadNess

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    Ok.
    Why don't you want to save the people who get shot by assault rifles?
    Also, in other countries, like germany, where we don't give guns out to about anyone like big murica does, we don't have so many shootings. Of course we have some, but not nearly as many as you do (because, imo, your country is fucked up...), not even if you compare the size of our countries. I'd say you even have more than whole europe has, and we, the EU, have clearly better gun control.
     
  13. xXMadNessXx

    xXMadNessXx Beware of the MadNess

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    It stops the criminal having easy access to it, meaning he just would have to steal it from "law-abiding citizens".
     
  14. Cranimesao

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    The main argument in the gun control fuss is to limit assault rifles and large capacity magazines. No matter what Fox News spews at you. Lets be good conservatives and do as we are told. Darn, we are not honoring the 4th amendment well. Nor the 6th or 8th.
    The entire reason that america is having problems is the fact that the conservatives hold to the beliefs from 200+ year ago. Times change and our laws should reflect that. Hearing people complain about this is the same as the slave owners crying about abolitionism. Hopefully in 50 years all of the old bags with have died and the spread of their beliefs onto the current upcoming generation that accepts gay marriage will be minimal. Maybe then we can catch up to the rest of the world.
    Personally I think that guns should be harder to obtain. Much harder. Such as a license would be in every other "First World" country on the planet.
     
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    Kirazy An idle texturer

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    Liberals aren't worth talking to.

    "Hopefully in 50 years all of the old bags will have died"

    You don't want discourse, you just want everyone to bow to what you believe, and are totally ignorant of reality. And if anyone dares to have a differing opinion, you believe, FIRMLY, that that belief is the result of indoctrination, of blind obedience to some unseen hand. Please. Just because I don't believe as you do doesn't make me an unthinking zealot.

    Liberals are not tolerant of deviation from their "norm".
     
  16. gknova61

    gknova61 Farbes Lover

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    Is it just me, or do you have a 'lil too much before you come on here, bro?
     
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  17. Cranimesao

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    Such an ironic statement coming from ANY religion. Just to clarify things, Liberals and Conservatives are idiots. I am sure that I have clarified that I hate everyone. Everyone has flaws, no one is perfect. The only thing that I want is for people to be happy. Sadly this will never be, not in my time anyway.
     
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    xXMadNessXx Beware of the MadNess

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    I'm a desperate man, trying to save the world. You're an egoistic little **** who doesn't look farther than his own little horizon. So yes, i do have a bit "too much".
     
  19. xXMadNessXx

    xXMadNessXx Beware of the MadNess

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    And kira, you never replied to any of the arguments i delivered. So it's 1:0 for me aka gun control.
     
  20. Kirazy

    Kirazy An idle texturer

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    You made arguments? Where were those, you were just threatening people with violence and acting as though you're a saint, that your country is perfect and ours a pathetic dirtpile that would do well to emulate yours. (Except you live in Europe, which is imploding in slow motion.)

    "Liberals and Conservatives are idiots" says the person whos actions and words align him perfectly with the left political spectrum. You want people to be happy? Stop trying to control us. You don't know better than myself what I need.

    You should probably think about what it would take to make EVERYONE HAPPY, when there are groups of people who would be happy with the extermination of the other. Making EVERYONE HAPPY is a goal that cannot ever, ever be realized with the methods you suggest.

    Also, do you realize what sort of cognitive dissonance you must live under in order for the idea that "I hate everyone" to exist side by side with "I want people to be happy"?
     
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